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  •  You are making a grave mistake -- (none / 1)

    you are assuming that Kerry believes the words he's saying.  If you get a chance, ask him where the hell he's been for the last 3 years.  He's a disaster waiting to happen -- "electability" is the creation of pundits who spend all their time talking to each other, and sheep-like voters who watch TV and don't think for themselves.  Democrats are making the biggest mistake in decades if they fail to recognize the true leadership and appeal of Howard Dean.

    by bdbd on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 10:28:39 PM PDT

    •  Oh, bother (none / 0)

      It's a losing battle to be protesting these sentiments on Kos, but FYI I've thought quite a lot about the candidates and am supporting Kerry.  The same goes for my parents, whose opinions on politics I respect a good deal, and who have been loyal Democrats all their lives.  Please at least consider watching one of his recent New Hampshire events (check CSPAN's site) before dismissing him as unelectable.  I find it's easy to dismiss other candidates based on conventional wisdom and hearsay without really listening to them and deciding for yourself.  

      on strike.

      by daria g on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 10:38:06 PM PDT

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      •  I've lived in Massachusetts since (none / 1)

        before Kerry was first elected to the Senate.  I consider myself well qualified to make a judgment about him.

        by bdbd on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 10:43:28 PM PDT

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      •  I don't have a problem with your support of Kerry (none / 0)

        But seriously, doesn't he sound different than he did before Dean rose to prominence?  And if he succeeds if besting Dean, which version of Kerry will we hear from now on?

        If Dean's message has been heard and will be followed by other candidates, I can live with that.  If Kerry is just mouthing words he doesn't believe until Dean's dead and buried, he deserves nothing but contempt.

        by BSJinx on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 11:07:39 PM PDT

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      •  I think you missed the point (none / 0)

        The point was that he hits most of the right themes in his speeches, but doesn't back them up with any consistency. So you can't trust that the nice sentiments will translate into action and leadership when public sentiment is not going his way.

        Why don't Kerry supporters give examples of such persevering behavior during Kerry's recent career? That would quiet some of the critics (not all, of course).

        "We're borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet." Al Gore

        by jd in nyc on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 11:11:17 PM PDT

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        •  Right on! (none / 1)

          There have been quite a few articles (not opinion pieces) showing that he doesn't seem to follow up on issues he puts forward strongly.

          And this was before he was running for president.

          I think you have to believe in something before you can get it to move into action.

          Dean was defeated when he first put forth his health care plan, but unlike Clinton, he didn't give up. He kept going back to the legislature, getting this, getting that, getting something else until he had everyone under 18 years covered.

          You can't buy persistence!

          by kateNC on Wed Jan 28, 2004 at 11:35:30 PM PDT

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