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A Modest Proposal: The Other Delegates for Dean

Thu Mar 04, 2004 at 06:58:45 AM PDT

Eugene Hedlund and the folks at Truth and Hope are to be congratulated for helping Howard Dean make one more piece of history in Vermont on Tuesday.  The quest for delegates continues, although doing so will require convincing voters that their votes won't damage Senator Kerry.

But then, I had a thought.  What if, in addition to sending delegates to Boston, we might send some to New York?

Turnout figures

Wed Mar 03, 2004 at 12:29:32 AM PDT

Connecticut- 179,056 in 2000, 114,264 in 2004 (90% reporting)

Georgia- 284,431 in 2000, 472,857 in 2004 (80+% reporting)

Maryland- 507,462 in 2000, 230,048 in 2004 (54% reporting)

New York- 921,465 in 2000 (92% reporting), 532,881 in 2004 (78% reporting)

Ohio- 860,568 in 2000 (92% reporting), 773,762 in 2004 (66% reporting)

Rhode Island- 46,844 in 2000, 32,699 (98% reporting)

Vermont- 49,283 in 2000, 59,681 (78% reporting)

(2000 numbers from Dave Leip's US Elections Atlas)

So we've got turnout down everywhere except for Georgia (flag vote), probably Ohio, and the Howard Dean Memorial in Vermont.  Should we be worried?

Poll

Is the low turnout in these primaries worrisome?

32%19 votes
49%29 votes
18%11 votes

| 59 votes | Vote | Results

Bad News from New Mexico

Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 09:41:36 PM PDT

The gay marraiges in Bernalillo, New Mexico today are apparently invalid.

But hours after the marriages began, New Mexico Attorney General Patricia Madrid said the licenses "would be invalid under current law."
    Madrid's "advisory" opinion came in the form of a letter to state Sen. Timothy Jennings, who had sought the advice after the marriages began Friday morning in Bernalillo.
    "Until the laws are changed through the legislative process or declared unconstitutional by the judicial process, the statutes limit marriage in New Mexico to a man and a woman," Madrid wrote. "Thus in my judgment, no county clerk should issue a marriage license to same sex couples because those licenses would be invalid under current law."

Whimsy: The Great Comeback

Fri Feb 20, 2004 at 02:02:19 AM PDT

I admit to wondering if the "suspended" Dean campaign could be reactivated.  There are sentimental reasons to think he might do better the second time around:

Enconiums from the other candidates and from numerous liberal and moderate columnists would make future attacks difficult
Representatives of the mainstream media have openly stated that they had been unfair to him (and you know how rare such apologies are)
DFA will have time to more thoroughly promote its issues rather than its process

and even a few structural reasons to believe that good things might happen:

No one is expending effort or money in 2/24 primaries
Edwards isn't on the 3/2 Vermont ballot
Dean is on ballots through early May

So here's a possible sequence of events.  Remember, this is being written with tongue firmly in cheek.

Two and a Half Men

Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 11:33:13 PM PDT

Governor Dean sent the following message to supporters tonight.

You folks are the best! I hope you will all keep active both in our new enterprise as we develop it, but also in the short term. We can still send delegates to the convention, and we should. If you are in a state with district, and state conventions, please make sure everyone goes, so that we send all the delegates we are entitled to. If you are in a state that has not yet voted, be sure to vote. We'll have a great time at the convention.

Thank you all for how hard you have worked, how much money you raised. And thanks for getting involved. It feels a hell of a lot better to try and lose, than not to try at all. In any case I have to say that I don't really feel like we have lost. We only lose if we quit. There is an enormous amount of power in numbers, and we can still change this country (and that is exactly what we're going to do!).

Many thanks,
Howard Dean

Delegates for Dean- Plausible? 2000 Results (Dem)

Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 12:54:25 AM PDT

Many of the hardcore Deaniacs, including myself, are planning to vote for the Governor anyway.  Governor Dean has said that he is looking for "progressive delegates" to go to Boston for him.

How likely is it that he'd get delegates?  For answers, we look to the late 2000 primaries.

By March 14, both parties had selected presumptive nominees, Bush and Gore, with majorities or near-majorities of the available delegates.  We'll look at the primary results starting in April, and see what we find.  All vote totals gathered from Dave Leip's US Elections Atlas.

Poll

Will Dean win late delegates?

13%6 votes
65%29 votes
6%3 votes
13%6 votes

| 44 votes | Vote | Results

Delegates for Dean- Plausible? 2000 Results (GOP)

Thu Feb 19, 2004 at 12:38:15 AM PDT

Many of the hardcore Deaniacs, including myself, are planning to vote for the Governor anyway.  Governor Dean has said that he is looking for "progressive delegates" to go to Boston for him.

How likely is it that he'd get delegates?  For answers, we look to the late 2000 primaries.

By March 14, both parties had selected presumptive nominees, Bush and Gore, with majorities or near-majorities of the available delegates.  We'll look at the primary results starting in April, and see what we find.  All vote totals gathered from Dave Leip's US Elections Atlas.

Poll

Will Dean win late delegates?

9%3 votes
66%22 votes
15%5 votes
9%3 votes

| 33 votes | Vote | Results

A Modest Proposal: The Excluded Middle

Wed Feb 11, 2004 at 06:45:49 AM PDT

As a Dean supporter facing the inevitable, I must say that I'm having a hard time sorting out my feelings about John Kerry.

On the plus side, Kerry's got a strong domestic liberal record and a thoroughly professional political operation;  on the minus side, his stands on many issues, foreign policy most notably, smack of opportunism.  But that's not the problem I'm writing about.  That's already been covered ad nauseam.

Nor do I think Kerry is doomed to defeat.  I believe W has a record so poor that Karl Rove can't cover it up, and the media is apparently no longer interested in doing so.

What bothers me is how he's going to win.

Poll

How many red states will Kerry win?

0%0 votes
0%0 votes
33%5 votes
40%6 votes
26%4 votes

| 15 votes | Vote | Results

A Modest Proposal: Democratic Excess

Fri Feb 06, 2004 at 07:37:05 AM PDT

With the primary season winding down, those of us supporting candidates apparently falling by the wayside must ask ourselves if we will support the nominee.  Most of us will, some of us won't, some of us aren't sure (I'm in this last group).

But more fundamental questions need to be asked as well.  The biggest question of all is the simplest one, and one that's so obvious that few of us ever think to ask it, as I didn't until this morning.

That question is this:

Does the primary season serve any real purpose?

My answer is no.

A message from Roy Neel

Mon Feb 02, 2004 at 07:12:55 PM PDT

After Governor Dean asked me to join the campaign I arrived in Burlington to the greatest group of individuals I have ever seen assembled on a single campaign staff. This is a great team and despite hitting a bump in the road recently we are united and determined to nominate Howard Dean and beat George W Bush.

The first step I took to make that happen was to get a handle on our budget and our resources. Because of you - including the 3,000 first time donors - we have raised roughly $3 million dollars in the last two weeks. Your continued support and a firm grip on our spending have enabled us to make strategic determinations on how we will spend our resources.

I am pleased to announce after a brief delay that we will pay our staff immediately and honor our commitment to make our payroll moving forward in the campaign. We have also decided to use our resources to build strong organizations in Wisconsin, Michigan, Maine and Washington in addition to an aggressive advertising campaign in Wisconsin.

I wanted you to be the first to hear the good news. Please keep sending your comments and suggestions. Together we will nominate Howard Dean in July and together we will win back the White House in November.

Poll

How many delegates will Dean win tomorrow?

2%2 votes
0%0 votes
7%7 votes
24%22 votes
26%24 votes
23%21 votes
16%15 votes

| 91 votes | Vote | Results

FEC Candidate Reports through 12/31 now online

Sun Feb 01, 2004 at 02:12:04 AM PDT

Give Us Liberty...

Thu Jan 29, 2004 at 07:04:33 AM PDT

For Dean supporters, these are not good times.  Some of us, including myself, are wondering if there's a point in going on.  But the stakes are too high for us to quit.

Here's the reason why.

MoDo Column on the Deans

Sat Jan 24, 2004 at 11:15:43 PM PDT

"He [Dean] seemed lost without his manic Jack Nicholson eyebrow-arching anger and devilish smile, an Oreo cookie without the filling, not sure how to proceed in a race where suddenly everyone was acting so nice, so measured, so blah."

"At moments on ABC, the couple seemed so far from mainstream American life and so disconnected from each other's careers, they were like characters who had walked into the wrong play."

When someone says such things, that are so far outside any reality you're aware of, how does one respond?

Columns pro- and anti-Dean

Sat Jan 24, 2004 at 03:46:08 AM PDT

The libertarian site Lewrockwell.com published two columns in its weekend edition on Howard Dean, submitted for your approval.  Both take a libertarian look at Dean vs. Bush and the rest of the field and at "I Have a Scream."

A Conservative for the Deans by David Franke

Libertarians for the Dingbat by Jerome Tuccille

Make of them what you will.

New Maryland Poll

Tue Jan 13, 2004 at 01:09:32 AM PDT

Submitted for your approval:

Only Democrats were asked this question. If the Democratic primary election for president were being held today with the following candidates on the ballot, for whom would you vote?

  • Howard Dean: 25%
  • Wesley Clark: 12%
  • Joseph Lieberman: 10%
  • Richard Gephardt: 8%
  • John Kerry: 6%
  • Carol Moseley-Braun: 3%
  • Al Sharpton: 3%
  • John Edwards: 3%
  • Dennis Kucinich: 2%
  • Undecided/Not sure: 25%
Generally speaking, do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?
  • Approve: 48%
  • Disapprove: 45%
  • Not sure: 7%
Does President Bush deserve to be re-elected in 2004, or are you more likely to vote for someone else for president?
  • Re-elect: 41%
  • Someone else: 51%
  • Not sure/Will not vote: 8%
If the candidates for president in the general election were George W. Bush the Republican and Howard Dean the Democrat, for whom would you vote?
  • Dean: 47%
  • Bush: 43%
  • Undecided/Not sure: 9%
  • Refused: 1%
(No other candidate was tested directly.  January 2-5, 1200 total voters, MoE 2.8%.  Democratic subsample size not given.)

http://www.sunspot.net/news/bal-mondaypoll0109,0,980574.htmlstory?coll=bal-home-headlines

New ARG Tracking Poll Figures

Sun Jan 11, 2004 at 02:45:47 AM PDT

Dean 35 (unchanged from yesterday)
Clark 20 (down 1)
Kerry 10 (unchanged)
Lieberman 9 (up 1)
Others 9 (unchanged)
Undecided 17 (unchanged)
Poll

Where will Kerry finish in New Hampshire?

0%0 votes
18%15 votes
63%51 votes
13%11 votes
0%0 votes
3%3 votes

| 80 votes | Vote | Results

ARG Tracking, Day Four

Thu Jan 01, 2004 at 11:30:37 AM PDT

The fourth day of ARG tracking is here.

Now that the sample has completely turned over once, we can see the following trends.

Dean is rock-solid at 37%.  Kerry lost a point for the third straight day, while Clark gained one.  Their difference has dropped from seven points (19-12) to three (16-13).

Also, Dick Gephardt gained another point;  at 6%, he's tied with Lieberman for 4th place.  ARG notes that 51% of voters have a favorable impression of Gephardt, but even among them he's in 4th place.  ARG speculates that a Gephardt win will push him into contention in NH.  Never mind that the last Iowa polling shows him losing badly there too (scroll down to "President, Iowa Dem caucuses."


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